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==Summary==
=Basic Game Information=
Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land is a remake of the NES title [[KA:Main_Page|Kirby's Adventure]]. It was released on the Nintendo GBA in 2002, and on Wii U Virtual Console in 2014.
Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land is a remake of the NES title [[KA:Main_Page|Kirby's Adventure]]. It was released on the Nintendo GBA in 2002, and on Wii U Virtual Console in 2014.


==Version Differences==
=Getting Started=
;[[Knidl:versions|Version Differences]]
;[[Knidl:rules|Rules & Categories]]
;[[Knidl:tech|Movement & Tech]]
;[[Knidl:abilities|Common Abilities]]


===Kirby's Adventure vs. Nightmare in Dream Land===
=Route Information & Guides=
Kirby Nightmare in Dream Land is a remake built entirely from the ground up. It has completely different physics, mechanics, graphics, and an entirely remade soundtrack. No glitches or tech carries over from Kirby's Adventure, and Nightmare in Dream Land has its own new tech.
;[[Knidl:any|Any%]]
;[[Knidl:100|100%]]
;[[Knidl:mk|Meta Knightmare]]


'''Other Main Differences'''
=Technical Information=
*Some Invisibility candies are placed by Meta Knight in Adventure. All candies are already placed in Nightmare in Dream Land
;[[Knidl:damage|Damage & Framedata]]
*The Rolling Turtle midboss is replaced with Phan Phan
;[[Knidl:Map_Deluxe|Level Editing]]
*When swallowing an enemy with an ability, the "demonstration" does not have a hitbox. Meaning Kirby can't kill enemies with it or burn ropes while underwater for example


'''Stage Differences'''
=See Also=
*In 1-2, the Ice Cream Island theme plays instead of the Airship theme
;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g69zr4o3X1Q Beginner Tutorial (2019) by MKCocoon]
*In 1-4, The second room has additional platforms
;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_nAGE6Hh8 7-2 Advanced Tutorial by MKCocoon]
*In 2-2, The area after Grand Wheelie is separated into its own room. The room extends into a vertical section and the final room from KA is not present
;[https://youtu.be/VZbByryg_Us Goal Game Tutorial by Halodude826]
*In 2-4, the laser ball room is extended
*The rotating tower rooms in 3-2, 3-3, 3-5, and 3-6 have been removed. The tower rooms in 3-3 and 3-6 are replaced by fog rooms that gradually fade away over time
*In 3-2, a room is added after Bugzy
*In 3-6, the final room is extended
*In 4-4 and 4-5, the first rooms are completely different. The last room of 4-5 is also different
*In 5-3, the last set of spikes in the final room are much easier to pass in Knidl
*In 6-3, the end of the first room is changed
*In 7-3, the final room is changed
*In 7-4, a final room is added
 
===English vs. Japanese===
There are two main differences between the English and Japanese versions that are significant for speedrunning
 
# Soft reseting is around 0.5s faster on the Japanese version
# The Japanese version has a bug where if you combine your discarded ability with 2 other enemies holding abilities, the mix roulette will always start 1 ability after your discarded ability. On English, your discarded ability is completely ignored.
 
There are no known differences between the US and EU versions of the game.
 
===Wii U VC===
Wii U VC has a few differences compared to playing on Console. There is a gray filter to help protect players eyes from the flashing affects, as well the flashing effects of midbosses and bosses being mostly removed. This means each time you kill a boss, you save time on Wii U VC. That being said Wii U VC has slower load times, and also runs at a slower framerate. This means Wii U VC is <b>overall less than a second faster than console versions.</b>
 
===Framerates===
[https://youtu.be/ZrpOopxZqec Knidl Framerate comparison by swordsmankirby]
 
===Loading times===
[https://youtu.be/QODQUbcWIRM KNIDL 60 door test Master]
 
==Rules & Categories==
[[Knidl:Rules|Rules & Categories]]
 
===Emulator Rules===
The only allowed emulators are mGBA and BizHawk with mGBA core. Runs using these must also use the BIOS file, and show the GBA startup screen via a hard reset before or after the run.
 
==Movement & Tech==
 
===Jumping===
Your speed is barely faster while in air compared to just running on the floor. The difference is extremly minimal unlike Kirby & the Amazing Mirror.
 
===Sliding off edges===
By pressing Down+A (or Down+B), Kirby will preform a slide. Sliding speed starts off fast and gradually slows down. By sliding near an edge, you can cancel the slide meaning you get a speed boost from the beginning of the slide while skipping the slower part of the slide. The only real disadvantage is that you need to restart your dash once touching the floor, but generally you want to slide off edges as much as possible with most abilities.
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112499629435662357/sliding_off.gif
 
===Holding down while swiming===
Ok I thought someone told me this was faster for RTA but now after recording this gif I have my doubts...
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112596304560914553/downswim.gif
 
===Eaten Inputs===
There's two Primary ways your inputs will get eaten in Knidl.
 
#Trying to do anything during hitlag
#Trying to jump while turning around around as normal Kirby (? Fact check)
 
==Ability Tech==
 
===Wheel===
Wheel is the most used ability in Knidl as it is the fastest and most versatile in horizontal mobility. '''Wheel can also break metal blocks'''
 
====Wheel Cancel====
Wheel's "skidding" animation can be skipped entirely by buffering a dash input. The way you do this is tap (or hold) forward, let go and press B, then press forward again all in rapid succession. The skidding animation can also be canceled partway through with a jump but dashing before jumping is optimal as it skips the entire animation.
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112474204827299881/wheel_cancel.gif
 
====Wheel Turn Cancel(?)====
By turning before canceling wheel, you will launch yourself in the other direction. You won't be able to use wheel as early as canceling it normally, but it still saves some frames each time.
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112501684237766726/wheel_turns.gif
 
====Reverse Bonk====
You always bonk away from the direction you are facing. By turning before bonking off a wall, you will bounce forward allowing you to reach locations otherwise impossible to reach without floating.
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106766444508749845/1110305450366337144/reversebonk.gif
 
===Hi-Jump===
Hi-Jump is ability where you jump very high with a hitbox while invincible. It is the fastest and most versatile method of vertical movement, while also dealing strong damage. Hi-Jump is used throughout the run but is seen the most during Butter Building.
 
====Hi-Jump Cancel====
To use Hi-Jump, press B. If you want to cancel your Hi-Jump you can press B again to immediately start falling. You won't be able to use Hi-Jump again until you touch the ground again.
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112485828061560862/hj_cancels.gif
 
Also shown in this gif, you can do a short hop before using hi-jump by sliding your fingers from A to B. This grants you a bit more extra height before you begin to slow down.
 
====Hi-Jump Hitbox====
Hi-Jump has a both a strong and weak hitbox. HiJump's strength depends on how close you are to the target.
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106766444508749845/1110303027912511538/hj.gif
 
* This gif uses Autofire in Bizhawk
 
===Ball===
Ball is a very powerful and complex ability in Knidl. In Kirby mode runs it is first used in 5-2, and then used throughout the run mostly for mid-bosses as well as King Dedede. The main thing you need to know with ball is that you are completely invincible in ball form unless you are touching the floor or at the peak of your jump. You can fall just as fast vertically in ball form as you can as stone Kirby. Kirby's maximum horizontal speed is also faster than jumping while in ball form.
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112591324051427328/Ball_Speed.gif
 
====Entering and exiting ball form====
When pressing B on the ground, Kirby will enter ball in a very awkward way that leaves you super vulnerable. When entering ball while falling a short distance, Kirby will immediately be rolling on the floor taking advantage of Ball's speedboost. If entering ball form as you jump, Kirby will immediately be bouncing in the air which is useful for certain movement strats or boss patterns.
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112592141890375770/5-2_bonkers.gif
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112596583532466216/ballswag.gif
 
====How damage is dealt====
Damage with ball is very strong. You hit up to two times in one jump, once on the way up and once on the way down.
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112592425995739267/7-2_phan.gif
 
'''Cool ass dedede strat'''
 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112474167669964851/1112487092711338145/de3.gif
 
===Burning===
Burning is an ability where you shoot forward as a fireball every time you press B. Here's two important things to note with Burning:
 
#When bonking off of a wall, your distance traveled after the bonk can be influenced by holding a direction on the dpad
#When burning into a slope, your burn will be canceled instead of bonking off of the slope like in Katam
 
===UFO===
UFO is a strong ability where Kirby can fly in all directions without being affected by gravity. UFO is also unique in that you lose the ability upon clearing a stage
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
|+ UFO Framedata
!Frame
!Description
|-
|1-13
|Beam
|-
|14-48
|Small Laser
|-
|49-108
|Medium Laser
|-
|109+
|Big Laser
|}
 
==Mixing==
When inhaling two enemies with abilities, a mix will be preformed upon swallowing them. The starting position of the roulette is '''one ability after the first enemy you inhale'''. The order of abilities is shown below:
 
[[File:KnidlMix.png]]
 
*The Japanese version has a bug where if you combine your discarded ability with 2 other enemies holding abilities, the mix roulette will always start 1 ability after your discarded ability. On English, your discarded ability is completely ignored.
 
==Goal Game Info==
Knidl's goal game is simple: Press A or B the moment Kirby touches the cloud. Optimally you want to jump on the earliest possible frame, but you have 3 frames to get a standing 7 which is still good. The 4th frame will be a climbing 6, which is a long animation. Since you can use both A or B for the goal game, a common strategy is to slide your finger across A and B. This way you essentially have two chances on hitting the earliest possible frame.
 
Below is a table with information on how much time you lose depending on how late you jump off the cloud.
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
!Frame
!Cloud
!Frames lost
|-
|0
|style="text-align: left;"|7 (Climb)
|108
|-
|1
|style="text-align: left;"|7 (Fast)
|0
|-
|2
|style="text-align: left;"|7 (Mid)
|11
|-
|3
|style="text-align: left;"|7 (Slow)
|22
|-
|4
|style="text-align: left;"|6 (Climb)
|96
|-
|5
|style="text-align: left;"|6 (Fast)
|15
|-
|6
|style="text-align: left;"|6 (Mid)
|39
|-
|7
|style="text-align: left;"|6 (Slow)
|42
|}
 
==Route Information & Guides==
 
 
==Meta Knightmare==
[[Knidl:Meta_Knightmare|Meta Knightmare]]
 
==Level Editor Information==
[[Knidl:Map_Deluxe|Map Deluxe]]
 
==See Also==
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g69zr4o3X1Q Beginner Tutorial (2019) by MKCocoon]
 
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_nAGE6Hh8 7-2 Advanced Tutorial by MKCocoon]
 
[https://youtu.be/VZbByryg_Us Goal Game Tutorial by Halodude826]

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